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Lemon_party

Joined: 26/10/06
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nz hip hop...
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:27 pm
Do you guys reckons it's up to par with stuff from the states? I don't mean as comparing to shit like 50 cents and the game. But as compared to Lupe Fiasco, Immortal technique and the roots.
 

tidsy

Joined: 16/04/06
Posts: 997
Location: Taranaki
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:20 am
i thort this was supposd to be a music site, not a site to tawk about blak cunts who dnt sing at all and use sounds from a computar to make their music
 

Sailor

Joined: 19/09/05
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:03 am
i can't stand hip hop but i reckon NZ artists have their own sound compared to US hip hoppers, like you listen to nesian mystik, che fu n shit like that it's more straight forward, no effects n shit not so fake sounding. So i reckon NZs stuff is better
 

grim_entropy

Joined: 13/08/04
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Location: Auckland
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:12 pm
Well said tidsy
 

metal head

Joined: 16/09/05
Posts: 145
Location: Canterbury
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:39 pm
couldnt agree more tidsy!!! Twisted Evil
 

tidsy

Joined: 16/04/06
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:16 pm
why thank u very much for your appreciation Happy
 

RiotGirl

Joined: 20/11/04
Posts: 75
Location: Taranaki
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:23 pm
Quit being so narrow minded. As much as I dislike hip hop, it's still a genre of music and deserves just as much respect as any other genre.
 

RiotGirl

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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:24 pm

Quote:

i can't stand hip hop but i reckon NZ artists have their own sound compared to US hip hoppers, like you listen to nesian mystik, che fu n shit like that it's more straight forward, no effects n shit not so fake sounding. So i reckon NZs stuff is better


Agreed.
 

Tainted

Joined: 17/06/05
Posts: 816
Location: Canterbury
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:37 am

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i thort this was supposd to be a music site, not a site to tawk about blak ..... who dnt sing at all and use sounds from a computar to make their music


Laughing No, No!

Rubbish.

All music is valid.

What's a "computar"? Laughing

The computErs don't WRITE the music.... geez... the ignorance these days No, No!

Che Fu and King Kapisi are amazing. NZ hip-hop has its own thing going on. I just hope we can keep all the bling and gangsta bullshit out of it. Leave that up to those black guys in america who have a chip on their shoulder and have to wave all their bling around to prove they can roll in cash like a big fat white man too.
 

evil_retard

Joined: 15/08/06
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:39 pm

Quote:

i can't stand hip hop but i reckon NZ artists have their own sound compared to US hip hoppers, like you listen to nesian mystik, che fu n shit like that it's more straight forward, no effects n shit not so fake sounding. So i reckon NZs stuff is better


Hiphop is gay, but I must admit, I agree with Sailor..

This message was edited by evil_retard on Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:45 pm.
 

johnsoncraigsbc

Joined: 01/11/05
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:08 pm

Quote:

I just hope we can keep all the bling and gangsta bullshit out of it.


We have substituted oversized t-shirts and stiff brimmed hats for that. I must say, wearing your hat like that doesn't make for optimum sun protection.
 

tidsy

Joined: 16/04/06
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Wed Nov 1, 2006 8:27 am

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I just hope we can keep all the bling and gangsta bullshit out of it.

its too late in taranaki, all the hip hopper dicks at my school are buying the bling and shit now to try and be cool because radio tells them too.

its only going to get worse and worse if we dont do anything about it now.

ooooohhh, u kno them classes ppl take to stop something like smoking, drugs, violence and shit like that, all ppl against hip hop should unite and giv the hip hoppers som class thingy like this
 

Sailor

Joined: 19/09/05
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Wed Nov 1, 2006 12:50 pm
hip hop rehab Razz
 

Tainted

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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Wed Nov 1, 2006 1:00 pm
They don't buy their bling here.

They shoplift it.
 

simone_ishtar

Joined: 07/09/04
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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Wed Nov 1, 2006 3:04 pm
Hmm the whole hip hop thing comes up again... Yeah its music, not something I like at all, still it is music. When you hear the likes of Kanye West ripping off relatively obscure composers like Domenico Scarlatti in some of his hooks (probably coincidental but still.check out the refrain in Sonata in E minor, Longo 352...) you can't invalidate it as not music. it is either music you like, music you don't care about or music you hate. Typically I am in the don't care about, leaning towards hate camp. Very Happy

Something that does interest me is the concept of the colour of music.... you can't deny rap as black urban music but I have to wonder what people think re: the music's 'colour' and the people doing it...
ie. if rap is black then presumably rock is white music? Does that make Jimi Hendrix a white guy or Eminem black? Is there a presumption of wannabe black or white guy to either?

Likewise take a singer as typically 'white' as Steve Perry from Journey (the guy is actually Portugese but I'd say 99.9% of people with Journey cds are middle aged, middle class white folk who make a habit of driving S.U.Vs and bobbing side to side, inebriated, at christmas parties and calling it dancing Mr Green ). When he bases the majority of his singing style on Sam Cooke, arguably the father of modern R&B singing, is there any validity in saying that music has colour?

I can't help but think there is always a cultural viewpoint when people sing about their experiences and the world around them but does it translate into the music itself?
 

Tainted

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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Wed Nov 1, 2006 3:18 pm
Well put Simon.

Good to see somebody with some perspective.
 

tidsy

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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Tue Nov 7, 2006 8:00 am

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hip hop rehab

dats the one sailor!, u c this is why im so hatefull towards africans and shit, they were the dick heads who started it all,

sadaam is gonna b hung, horaaaahhhhh!!!, hope it hurts like hell!, wen it happens someone is bound to get footage, then it wil b down to downloading it, horaaaaahhhhh!!!!
 

johnsoncraigsbc

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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Tue Nov 7, 2006 10:49 am
do you know when he is going to get hung? and is it going to be a public broadcast?
 

tidsy

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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Wed Nov 8, 2006 1:01 pm
dunw and dunw johnson but hell yeah!
 

johnsoncraigsbc

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RE: nz hip hop...
Posted: Wed Nov 8, 2006 8:39 pm
I would want to see him be hung. Kind of sadistic but I would.
 

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